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Blessings in Tithing

Washington, Truth Gathering, Volume II (not yet available) chapter: Blessings In Tithing ©copyright 2003 Bonita M Quesinberry, R.C. in response to Truth Seekers and Speakers (TSaS) query: “Is tithing one’s time and/or spending time with the Lord equal to a financial tithe, if a person does not have enough money for tithing?”

 

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The TSaS member question regarding tithes is all too familiar and has been for hundreds of years. Today, it is most common for people to resent paying 10% tithes to various quasi-Christian denominations to which they might belong, and resent being asked for contributions of additional financial gifts to the following funds: building, missionary, school, entertainment, choir, recreation— the list goes on and on.

In this list of funds, however, rarely is found a sufficient account to care for their own followers: if it’s even on the list. Sadly, not one of those endowments fulfills Christ’s church requirements: not one feeds the hungry, clothes the naked or houses the homeless or sees to it that all members are equally financially. Denominations and evangelists are all about show: showing off wealth as an example of truth— despite teaching lies— living in and teaching of the world thus bringing in flocks of goats as an example of fruit— despite fruit being of righteousness, not of numbers. Alas, though they teach of God and Christ, God’s power is not with them.

This is especially daunting to those with low incomes forced to survive in an economy where even basic living expenses are more than they can afford. Why? Because when he or she does need help, these same denominations and/or evangelists are not coming through for their own members and followers; yet, they build mega-million dollar buildings expensively furnished, and their leaders live well. Evangelists live in mansions behind guarded gates, drive expensive cars, wear designer clothes, hobnob with celebrities, and take expensive vacations. Don’t look to them for help: they stuck their hand out first and expect you to fill it with greenbacks.

Most even go so far as to teach that, in order to gain wealth, we MUST pay them more than tithes: they speak the adage that it takes money to make money. Frequently, we hear leaders promise, “Pledge $1,000 today! The Lord gave me a revelation! He promises to make you millionaires within 90 days, if you send in $1,000 now.” Then, they read letters from people they claim sent in the money and are now millionaires— as proof of their revelation’s validity.

The only god known to man, and Yeshua, who promises gold in the here and now is Lucifer; and, temporarily, the riches of this world are his to give as he pleases: except, he’s no god at all, merely a fallen angel. Worse, his coin bears a mint nobody should want in their hand: muchless impressed upon their forehead. We should keep in mind the scripture, “It is no surprise that Satan can manifest himself as an angel of light, and so can his ministers.”

Even worse, these so-called Christian leaders consistently accuse a person’s lack of financial success as being the failure of the very poor upon whom they prey. And, to add insult to injury, if he or she rendered a $1,000 in desperation— and a belief that a man of God wouldn’t lie about such things— but didn’t become a millionaire as promised: why, then it’s because he or she didn’t believe God! It’s never about those lying con-men of a con-god. A catch twenty-two if ever there were one.

The saddest thing of all is that those same leaders will shout a codicil to their plea for these hundreds to 1,000-dollar requests: “Everybody says we’re just here to take your money. That we’ve always got our hand out. Well, let me tell you, WE—aren’t—taking—your—money. We are trying to GIVE you money…from God!” Are there truly that many gullible, desperate people in the world today? Are there really that many who don’t know the Bible well enough to recognize false prophets? Obviously. After all, these evangelists and denominations wax richer and richer while most of their followers barely scrape by.

Is it any wonder people are looking for ways to justify not paying tithes? God and His requirements have been so maligned. In reality, everything we have and every penny we bring in and/or receive by whatsoever manner belongs to God; however, He asks for only 10% of our take-home income in return. Although, it is seriously doubted that He really wants it to line the pockets of those swindlers just mentioned. And, it’s a whole lot better deal than our own government gives us at tax time: 25 to 50% taxation.

Still, the question: does our time given to others and time spent with God count toward tithe, if we don’t have the financial resources to pay tithes? The short answer is N—O, no. There is no doubt we should use our time to assist others with whatever help he or she might need; and, we should spend some time with the Lord every day as well as devote His Sabbath exclusively to Him. Doing these things is required of Christ’s sheep; but, it does not negate our financial responsibility to Yeshua’s church (the sheep): to fulfill our responsibility to Him. As Christ said, “To do these things for the least among you, is to do it unto me.” It is a matter of trusting God and Christ.

If Adonai provides a job at which a person earns a wage, then ten per cent of his or her net pay— that is, take home pay— plus any other monies made, or received by whatsoever means, belong to Elohim. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Thus, if a person takes home $250 per week after taxes and receives another $50 as a gift or for doing odd jobs here and there, then $30 belongs to El Elyon.

If we believe the $270 left over isn’t enough, then we don’t believe God will take care of our basic needs: which is to imply that God is a liar. The key word is: BELIEVE. If our expenses exceed basic needs, then we screwed up financially and were not good stewards of what God has given us: it is not the fault of Ishi.

Nevertheless, it still belongs to El and promptly should be paid. Besides, it gives Him an opportunity to prove His Word to the one who faithfully tithes and gives gifts of cash. We must remind ourselves of the widow’s penny: it was all she had and that penny meant more to God than the tithes others easily paid with a lot of cash left over. They should have been helping her, but they weren’t.

Most people are surprised to learn that this writer pays tithe plus more in cash gifts, yet lives on a small social security disability income considered 65% below poverty level. There are two excuses in their minds as to why I shouldn’t be paying tithes and gifts: 1) income below poverty level; and, 2) it is social security into which I paid over the years from out of my earned wages.

In response to the latter and my financial background perspective: Yes, I paid into Social Security, which reaps the benefits I receive today; however, at the time those benefits were deducted from my salary, I did not pay tithes on that amount: because, it was not in my take-home pay. I receive it back today, therefore tithe is due today on the monthly amount I receive.

With regard to argument #1, no scripture exists that says tithes are due ONLY if we earn over a certain amount of money: in this case, over poverty level. What the Lord blesses me with is the amount on which I owe tithes.

As God promised, I never go without and never run out of money. I might have only a few coins at the end of any month, but I’m not out of money! I made it a point to have no debts, other than normal living expenses of rent, utilities, food, gas, car insurance. I drive a 1977 Pontiac. Old Maggie doesn’t look real great but she runs like a dream and gets me from point A to B and back again: short distance or long distance, doesn’t matter to her. This is to live within one’s means and to be satisfied with only the basics. And, any time Maggie has needed repairs of some sort or tires or simple service, God has seen to it I had the money to maintain this ancient car with only a little over 102,000 actual miles on it.

But, to whom do I pay tithe and gifts? This presents a dilemma for most. To whom do we pay tithe? We must not give it to denominations or evangelists who don’t fulfill Christ’s requirements for His true church and do not teach ALL of God’s Truth. So, where does it go? In a bank to earn interest until Christ returns? Like God really needs the interest. He owns everything in the universe!

Not long ago a scriptural response describing Christ’s church was provided, wherein it states that every member should be equal in all things. Therefore he who has much will have nothing left over and he who has little will lack nothing. Everyone pools his or her resources, then distributes the money as each member has need: “Bring all that you have into My storehouse.” This isn’t happening anywhere! Alas, there is not such a denomination to which to pay our tithes.

Not so! WE—THE PEOPLE—ARE THE CHURCH. I took literally Christ’s command: feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and house the homeless. I’ve made it a practice to provide God’s money to individuals with genuine needs: a person or persons who are doing everything they can but still can’t make it through no fault of their own. This tithe and extra gifts— or anything I have, for that matter— are not mine to begin with, so each comes out of my account first thing: I never miss it, because I don’t count on it.

In my mind, I have 10% plus cash gifts less coming in each month. But, my tithes plus cash gifts will put food on someone’s table or a warm coat on their back or shoes on their child or pay a portion of rent or, perhaps, a utility. WE are to care for one another: our brothers and sisters in Christ. This won’t happen if we look to organized religions.

Now that righteous anger over today’s so-called Christendom has been expressed, let’s take a look at Webster’s New World Dictionary, Collegiate Edition, on the word TITHE, followed by God’s Word relative to the tithe issue:

TITHE: n. 1. one tenth of the annual produce of one’s land, etc., or its equivalent in money, paid as a tax to support the church (people) or the clergy. 2. one tenth part or any small part. TITHING: n. 1. a levying or paying of tithes

As most US citizens are aware, if we fail to pay income taxes timely, our government will add exorbitant penalty fees PLUS late charges. And, if that doesn’t motivate us to pay Uncle Sam, then imprisonment follows. As we enter into God’s Holy Word, it will be discovered that He, too, adds a penalty fee if a person fails to pay their tithe timely: albeit, He does not add late charges or threaten imprisonment. Although, He does render a curse upon the debtor. This is another example of how mankind’s government resembles God’s government: the remarkable difference being that God is not greedy and requires considerably less of us than do earth’s ruling bodies.

Yeshua never wanted earthly kings and worldly governments; but, the people insisted on having both. He allowed it so we might learn that His ways are far more just and easier to follow than mankind’s, more rewarding in the here and now and through eternity: but, not before telling us just what kind of kings these men would be, as noted in Samuel below. Text in BOLD CAPS denotes the core message for this lesson on tithing. AKJV Bible:

(Genesis 28:22) And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God’s house: and of ALL THAT THOU SHALT GIVE ME I will surely GIVE THE TENTH UNTO THEE.

(Exodus 20:8-11) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days THE LORD MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE SEA, AND ALL THAT IN THEM IS, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it [made it holy]. {God’s reason for requiring what He requires of us}

(Leviticus 27:30-32) And ALL TITHE of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the Fruit of the tree, IS THE LORD’S: IT IS HOLY UNTO THE LORD. And IF A MAN will at all redeem [PAYS] aught [ZERO] of his TITHES, HE SHALL ADD THERETO THE FIFTH PART THEREOF [add 5% to that which he owes the Lord].

(Numbers 18:26) Thus speak unto the Levites [PRIESTS, PASTORS, PREACHERS, EVANGELISTS], and say unto them, WHEN YE TAKE of THE CHILDREN of Israel the TITHES WHICH I HAVE GIVEN YOU FROM THEM for your inheritance, then YE SHALL OFFER up an heave offering of it for the Lord, even A TENTH part OF THE TITHE. {How many religious leaders pay tithes on the tithes paid to them?}

(Deuteronomy 14:22) Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase [net] of thy seed [income], that the field bringeth forth year by year [so you will continue to earn year by year].

(I Samuel 8:10-18) And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto the people that asked of him a king. And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots. And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear [plow] his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.

And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give to his officers, and to his servants. And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work. He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.

And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day. Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us; that we also may be like all the [heathen] nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

{Isn’t this interesting? The Lord warned us that worldly rulers would have only their own best interests at heart. And, is it not true that government leaders around the world never do without, live exceedingly well? Indeed, they do far better than the people over whom they reign. What God told us here is that worldly governments will take the best we have, leaving only crumbs for us to get by on. “Power corrupts.” And, look at these kings’ judgments. Ack! With enough money, the guilty go free and, for lack of funds, the innocent are imprisoned. And, finally, our young die at the whims of war initiated by world powers. Is not this nation, even the world, crying out for financial relief? This cry will not be heard; but, our cry for salvation and redemption will be heard.}

(Malachi 3:8-9) Will a man rob God? Yet YE HAVE ROBBED ME. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? IN TITHES AND OFFERINGS. YE ARE CURSED with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. BRING YE all THE TITHES into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, AND prove me [TEST MY WORD] now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I WILL not open you the windows of heaven, and POUR YOU OUT A BLESSING, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

{And, now we see that paying our tithes not only validates our trust and faith in God but also is our test of His promise to bless us in paying those tithes. However, to pay tithes simply to test Yeshua is wicked. The tithes must be given: 1) because we love Adonai; 2) because He said to do it; 3) because we believe everything He says; and, 4) because everything is His in the first place; therefore, 5) we owe it to Him; 6) because we trust His Word; and finally, 7) to test His Word. This is the only circumstance in the Bible where we are invited to test God’s Word: thus, this is not to tempt Him, as other requests might be considered.}

(Matthew 19:21,23-24; Mark 10:21) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and GIVE TO THE POOR, AND thou shalt HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN: and come and follow me. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

(Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin [tithes paid to them by the people], and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and NOT TO LEAVE the other [PAYING TITHE] UNDONE.

(Luke 6:30-31,35-36) GIVE TO EVERY MAN THAT ASKETH OF THEE; and of him that taketh away thy goods [because you cannot pay] ask them not again [for help]. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. Love ye your enemies, and do good, and LEND, HOPING FOR NOTHING again [IN RETURN]; AND YOUR REWARD SHALL BE GREAT, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

(Luke 20:25) And he said unto them, RENDER therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and UNTO GOD THE THINGS WHICH BE GOD’S.

(Acts 2:41-42,44-47; 4:34) excerpted phrases denoting Christ’s true church)

They that gladly received God’s word were baptized. And they continued stedfastly in the doctrine and fellowship, and shared meals and prayers. And ALL THAT BELIEVED WERE TOGETHER, AND HAD ALL THINGS EQUAL; and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and eating together from house to house, did eat with gladness and singleness of heart, praising God. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. NEITHER WAS THERE ANY AMONG THEM THAT LACKED: for possessors of excess lands or houses sold them, and distribution was made to every man according as he had need.

(Acts 20:35) I have shewed YOU all things, how that so labouring [WORKING] ye OUGHT TO SUPPORT THE WEAK, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE than to receive.

(Romans 12:20-21) Therefore IF THINE ENEMY HUNGER, FEED HIM; IF HE THIRST, GIVE HIM DRINK: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

(Romans 13:8) OWE NO MAN ANY THING, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

(II Corinthians 8:13-15) For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: but by an EQUALITY, THAT NOW AT THIS TIME YOUR ABUNDANCE MAY BE A SUPPLY FOR THEIR WANT, THAT THEIR ABUNDANCE ALSO MAY BE A SUPPLY FOR YOUR WANT: THAT THERE MAY BE EQUALITY: as it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.

(Hebrews 7:1-3) For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all [he had taken from defeated kings]; [Melchisedec] first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; without father, without mother, without descent [genealogical history], having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

{Hebrews enlightens us to pay tithes to Christ’s clergy as Abraham had paid tithes of all his increase to Melchisedec: first, the King of righteousness, then King of Salem— like the Son of God. Today, Christ’s clergy ARE NOT leaders of Christian appearing denominations or non-denominational evangelists, as noted in Matthew and Luke: rather, Christ’s leaders are only those who “speak only God’s testimony and teach only His laws, because there is light in them.” These have been “taught by no man,” to-wit: in man’s seminaries. Denominational Christianity does not do these things, for they teach man’s smooth yet forbidden doctrine and traditions: rather, they take and never give freely. They simply hold out their hand for more and more.}

(Galatians 6:2) BEAR YE ONE ANOTHER’S BURDENS, AND SO FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST.

SUMMARY— TITHE TIMES SEVEN: God’s perfect number, praise the Lord!

 1. TITHE is HOLY to the Lord (Leviticus 27:30-32)

2. LAYMEN PAY 10% tithe on all God gives them (Deuteronomy 14:22)

3. CLERGYMEN PAY 10% tithe of all God gives them (Numbers 18:26)

4. FAILURE TO PAY all or if paying only partial, ADD 5% PENALTY fee (Leviticus 27:30-32)

5. FAILURE TO PAY TITHE IS A SIN reaping a curse: it is to rob God (Malachi 3:8-9)

6. PAY TITHE, FOR EVERYTHING IS GOD’S in the first place (Exodus 20:8-11)

7. PAY TO TEST GOD’S PROMISE and receiving blessings (Malachi 3:8-9) 

Neither our time nor any gift given to us of the Spirit eliminates our obligation to pay tithes on all monies we receive: whether in wages and/or gifts, all is considered an increase of which 10% belongs to El Shaddai. Additionally, our time and gifts also are required us. It’s not a matter of one or the other.  

If we use the excuse of not being able to afford to pay tithe, then we demonstrate a lack of belief, a lack of trust, and in so doing commit a sin vowed to bring a curse down upon us. God promises He will see that our basic needs are met; so, paying tithe also gives Him opportunity to demonstrate the strength of His Word.  

El also promises blessings to those who do pay their tithes and which is another opportunity for Him to prove His Word. Contrary to popular teachings that the more you give financially the more you will reap financially, El’s blessings are not necessarily in the form of earthly wealth. As Jesus said, the poor always will be among us: which explains why, despite paying tithes, a person might not increase financially. Everything is as it should be. 

The other important aspect of paying tithes is that we are NOT to pay them to those outside Christ’s true church; in other words, we do not render tithes to unbelievers or to those not teaching ALL God’s Truth in accordance with Isaiah 8:16,20, paraphrased— “Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples: who speak only my testimony and teach my law; for there is light in them.” We must remember: God’s Word was not written to the world-at-large: it is written to His people and only His people. 

In conclusion and as an act of faith, pay tithes and reap blessings— or not, and reap the curse of twice dead. To whom should tithes be paid? If God’s Truth is understood and obeyed, it will be recognized in others: those to whom tithes cheerfully should be given as well as to the poor believers; for they always are with us as a test our faith and theirs. 

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22 September 2006 - Posted by | Bible, Bible Related Articles, Bible Study, Blessings, Christ, Christian, Christianity, Church, Faith, God, Grace, Jehovah, Jesus, Love, Religion, Remnant, Spiritual, Spiritual Study, Theology, Truth

18 Comments »

  1. In many cases it is outside events that desvastate us financially, but that does not eliminate God’s requirement of us. He knows that your 10% will be less based on what income we do have. If that income is zero then the tithe is zero. God really does provide no matter what is our income, whether that income comes from a job or public assistance. My own daughter has a student loan that she must pay. When she has been unable to do so, she contacted them and they would set up a waiver of payments until she could resume payments: it is costly but sometimes necessary.

    As for tithes going to denominations, there are too many that do not teach God’s truth, rather teaching man’s; therefore, it is prudent to use our tithes for those in need, paying it directly to that person or persons. That is God’s use of the tithes, for we note that Paul and the other apostles worked rather than take tithes from the seven churches. The only time they did accept part of the tithes from one church, it was to aid another of the seven churches: church meaning the people as opposed to a corporate denomination.

    Perhaps you did not read this Bible treatise in total, for all of the above in this message to you is in the lesson and more. Please do realize that it IS our own fault if we incur debts greater than our income; moreso, if we have not set aside 6-months of monies in a savings account for either emergencies or events that cause us to lose time on the job or we lose our job. We know that, sometimes, even those dollars only go so far. Still, God assures us that He will not forsake His own and will see that we have the necessities of life. He provides the luxuries of life only to those who are not His, mainly because this life is all they will have: He is kind to all while humanity lives this temporary life, even the “wicked and filthy.”

    Thank you so much for commenting, Rasmuris, and I pray that you are blessed with a better understanding and knowledge of our Father and His Christ. Knowing absolutely the character of both sets our hearts at ease, even during tribulations.

    Much love and prayers in Christ,
    BonnieQ, God’s Handmaiden

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  3. Indeed, Guy, much more than a mere 10% is required of we who follow after Christ. In fact, according to one the Bible’s description and requirements of the true church, all we have is to be given the church; which then distributes it among each member in accordance with their needs. Alas, there is not one denomination that lives up to this or any of the other requirements.

    However, I do disagree that tithing was and is not required of everyone: even Jesus commented on the poor woman who gave a penny, which was all she had at that time; this act meant more to God than those with plenty who had tithed only a mere 10%.

    Yes, I agree that, if we do all that is commanded, then our blessings are greater; but, much more is commanded of us than just a tithe or giving all we have to the church: and, we should do it all, to fail in one matter is to fail in all of it; thus, twice dead will be our sentence.

    Thank you so much for reading this treatise, of which “Christ’s True Church” is a part of but not posted here at WordPress; and, thank you for your wonderful comments and insight.

    Much love in Christ 🙂
    BonnieQ

    Comment by bonnieq | 27 January 2007 | Reply

  4. tithing is not commanded for everyone. The poor did not tithe, it was actually given to them. the carpenters, blacksmiths, lawyers, docters, tax collectors, bankers, all did not tithe. the law of tithing went way beyond just giving a tenth, because there were other commands to it as well. where it went, when it was given, and what was given were all part of the command, but for some reason we only brought the percentage into the new testament covenant. Why? If all that was commanded to receive blessing from God. Then why only do a quarter of the covenant? if you do all of it, i guess your blessing would be even greater?

    Comment by tithe and offering guy | 25 January 2007 | Reply

  5. Thank you for letting me know, Supper! I’m assuming, since you did not leave a URL, that all I have to do is click on your screen name. 🙂

    Much love in Christ,
    BonnieQ

    Comment by bonnieq | 5 January 2007 | Reply

  6. Bonnie,

    There is a Supper42 website up now, in case you are interested.

    Comment by Supper42 | 5 January 2007 | Reply

  7. You are spot on, Supper42: those “demonations” tend to rule by “denomination” of lies sprinkled with a bit of truth to make it palatable to their goats; BUT, the sheep still lost therein are cold thus seeking the warmth of truth. So, we truth speakers speak on, despite persecution from those professing to be Christians. Thank you for you very candid comments! 🙂

    Much love in Christ,
    BonnieQ

    Comment by bonnieq | 19 December 2006 | Reply

  8. For the record: The term “demonations” may be more accurately appropriate than “denominations,” as the latter is simply an attempt of Satan to mask the fact that the synagogues of Satan have diluted the TRUTH with doctines of devils and precepts of men. One may even argue that the term denomination is used as a veil to hide the existance of a “nation of demons” from those who are under delusion.

    Comment by Supper42 | 19 December 2006 | Reply

  9. Stephen, it would appear you did not read this entire article, for you missed some very vital points. 🙂

    BonnieQ

    Comment by BonnieQ | 18 December 2006 | Reply

  10. Bonnie,

    Those who are the church are those who have believed the gospel of Christ. The roll book is kept in heaven. How many have believed what they have read in the New Testament. That could be far more than we know. Certainly, there are many who mix in their own spin to the message. The spin that says we are to ‘pay a tithe’ is the one I have devoted to correcting.

    In matching the O.T. with the N.T., I find the verse on the exchange of tithe for money in Deut. 14 a match to Jesus own words in his parable of the tares. It is the wheat that is brought into the barn and the tares that are bound and burned. In Deut. 14 it is those who have the money bound to their hand vs. those who have taken their corn to the storehouse. Those who eat the corn (wheat) become as the wheat, to be harvested by the Lord. Those who have the money bound to hand shall be the ones bound as the tares. Judas was himself a tare amongst the wheat.

    The tithe of the land has a twin, the tithe of the manna. This is in Exodus 16. It is the tithe of the manna that is put into a pot. Would you consider replacing the manna with money? Why then would you consider replacing the corn, oil, and wine with money. The fruit of the land took over the duties of the manna. Both had tithes to be put somewhere. Leave them alone.

    The one time offering of Christ’s own body and blood is the basis of his priesthood after the order of Melchisedek. Melchisedek received a tithe once, but Jesus offered his body once. To make Jesus a receiver of tithes in the form of money is to make money equal with his offering of blood. It is best to leave that one alone.

    In every way the tithe is paired with those things that represent God himself, as inheritance, as manna, as great priest. To make money a part of this is to make the ultimate wrong choise. Leave the tithe alone! It is best to receive voluntary contributions. The New Testament supports that.

    Comment by Stephen | 16 December 2006 | Reply

  11. These church denominations, whether, they be protestant, catholic, non-denominational, or whatever are far from being the true church (I will spare you the details of the names of blasphemy). The fact that so many in these synagogues of Satan are quick to condemn anyone who does not belong to a church because such a person has no way to pay tithes is a testimony against themselves; their leaders promise them liberty, but yet they are all under one form of bondage, or another; required tithing being a form of bondage.

    As priests with Christ: I mean those who are truly saved (wounded in the heart, not the head – having not simply repeated the sinners prayer in front of their TV because they are told that is all they need to do) we are able to approach the Lord to not only intercede for others, but also to present sacrifices. Now a sacrifice is not something done out of necessity, for where there is necessity there is the law and if you are free then you are not under the law. So, if any man, woman, or otherwise (who other than God knows anymore in this day and age?) leads another to believe that they are required to tithe, then they have led the deceived person(s) into a bondage that the Christian has been liberated from through the fulfillment of the law in Christ Jesus. Now, if a sacrifice is done willingly then it should be of the best that a person has to offer and not something they themselves have rejected, no matter if it be food, clothing, money, or whatever else ANY PERSON may need.

    For when I say ANY PERSON, I refer to exactly that. If we give only to someone that we KNOW is a Christian, then we do no more than what the Lord, when he walked among us, said not to do. He said simply, if you see someone in need, or if someone asks something of you, give it to them without requiring, expecting, or demanding ANYTHING in return. If you do it willingly with a cheerful heart it is accounted to you as a worthy sacrifice by He Who Judges the Hearts of Men. If you only give to someone that you think is worthy of receiving a sacrifice, then you have judged that person in your heart as being unworthy and as the Lord said: that which you do unto the least of these my brethren, that you do unto me.

    So give freely to all who are in need of something that you can provide and you will have treasures built up in heaven, but withhold from the needy because you do not think that they are worthy to receive, or because you are not convinced that they are part of the true Body of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, then you blaspheme the good name of Jesus Christ who died for all.

    I have also seen how many in these churches like to make sure that others know that they tithe, not only have they missed the entire point, but they also have received their reward, whatever that may be. The true church is the body of Christ, who is the fullness of the Godhead. In all ways are we to set the other person above ourselves/esteme them higher than our own selves and humble ourselves before all men. If we do this toward each other then we also exalt each other: for tithes are paid by the lesser to the greater and confession is made by the lesser to the greater. By setting ourselves low and exalting another member in our hearts we exalt the whole body, if indeed we do this toward one another willingly.

    If we exalt ourselves in our hearts then we are condemned with the condemnation of Lucifer who set his heart to be the heart of God, but did everything for his own personal gain in selfishness because he did not like the idea that the head of the body should be anything other than himself. For it is the self that is evil and must be forsaken, otherwise if we sacrifice only for our own gain (the hope of the reward to come) to exalt our own selves then it is an unworthy sacrifice, a selfish abomination and the son of perdition is revealed within us.

    I have said enough for now. I may have said too much.

    Comment by Supper42 | 15 December 2006 | Reply

  12. Stephen, I feel you did not read this tithe treatise in total, or you would have noted: according to Christ’s description of His church and how it should function is that everyone within be equal in all things, that everyone pool their resources then divide it out as each has need. In fact, this treatise warns that we are not to pay the tithes to organized Christian religions: they are not the church and don’t even function as Christ’s church should function.

    You might want to read this in its entirety before passing judgment on its contents. 🙂

    Love in Christ,
    BonnieQ

    Comment by bonnieq | 14 December 2006 | Reply

  13. The parting put down is not against you personally but a reference to Paul’s warning. “As the serpent tempted Eve beware lest your minds be corrupted from the simplicity in Christ.” Paul recongnized the spiritual and prophetic significance of this passage from Genesis. What should be understood as God’s provision of food is taken as a means of bringing money into the church. There can be no good that will come from this practice. God says to bring the corn, oil, wine to the storehouse. That is what He means. The thirty pieces of silver prophecy says, “If you think good, give wage, if not forbear.” A more common way to put it is to ‘leave it alone’. The same phrase is used with Eve. If you ‘think good’ is the same Hebrew words as ‘it looked good to the eyes’.

    Comment by Stephen | 13 December 2006 | Reply

  14. Thank you for commenting, Stephen; however, I must admit that what you have written makes absolutely no sense. I will continue to rely on the Holy Spirit’s guidance and pen what He instructs me to pen.

    And, bless you for your parting put down. It confirms that I bear God’s Seal. 🙂 You are in my prayers.

    Comment by bonnieq | 13 December 2006 | Reply

  15. “You shall give them no inheritance, I am their inheritance.”

    Thus God speaks the end of land apportionment and tithing. If you collect tithes, you are saying that you prefer the money to Christ. The prophecy of the thirty pieces of silver is first of the collecting of tithes in the church age, looking back at Christ’s betrayal; “they weigh for salary (price KJV) thirty pieces of silver.” Read also the exchange of tithe for money law in Deut. 14.

    The tempter has tempted Eve and she is devouring the forbidden fruit.

    Comment by Stephen | 12 December 2006 | Reply

  16. Thank you so much, Peter, for the encouraging words. Just as God’s Law is a Law of Blessings, so tithing reaps blessings. You might want to read a recent article, “Love to Give.”

    As for being prophecied over and told that you are about to come into great wealth, I caution you to take great care in believing that such a prophecy actually came from the Holy Spirit. We are living in the end days and wealth is for the wicked, for it is all they will ever have while here. The wealth of this world is theirs to use but, in God’s reality, it is reserved for the sheep after earth is made new again.

    In the last few years, TV evangelists and denominations have been and continue teaching prosperity, which is neither in keeping with God’s Word nor that of Christ’s: He taught a vow of poverty yet we would lack nothing in the way of basic needs. In fact, this is Satan’s teachings and his last ditch effort to pull Christ’s sheep into the world, that they be wholly unprepared for His return, for wealth in this defile world corrupts absolutely. To be unprepared is to be left behind quite dead.

    Again, thank you so much for the encouragement. I hope to see you here again. 🙂

    Much love in Christ,
    BonnieQ

    Comment by bonnieq | 17 November 2006 | Reply

  17. Hello Bonnie,

    What a breath of fresh air this column is. You have demonstarted right away what the tru purpose of tihing is and good for you exposing the fraudelant way these “televangelists” rip of God’s people left, right an centre. However, like me, these same people should have been more in tune with the Spirit of God and mor knowledgable of the word. I was one of these in that, instead of tithing I was nearly take in by Peter Popoff. I will not go into what I think of him, needless to say his methods are at best crooked,and if he does not repent of his ways, then according to the Word, his judgement will be swift. I only stated consistently tithing for the last three months after having been financially embarrassed for a good number of years, including with the Peter Popoff ripoff. However I am beleiving the Lord for a breakthrough as it was prophecied over me and my wife by the mouth of two witnesses that we will be showered suddenly with wealth and to prepere for it. Not that I want to wallow in it when it comes, because I want to be the lender and not the borrower, and give generously.
    Anyway thanks agian for your great balanced and honest message. God Bless you and keep you.

    Peter

    Comment by Peter Henriques | 17 November 2006 | Reply

  18. Bonnie, this is a wonderful and important message.

    Bill and I have tithed ever since we accepted the Lord as our Savior and gave our lives to Him. We were in terrible financial shape 15 years ago when we started tithing. The Lord did miraculous things and we were able to get out of debt and ward off bankruptcy in just two years. Debts we had would get canceled and money would just come when we needed it.

    When we took Bill’s mom into our home because she had Alzheimers, the financial burden became excessive but we were faithful in our tithes and our offerings and every month we were able to make ends meet. It was miraculous and continues to be miraculous even though my husband in not bringing in a steady income.

    God is faithful and promises to bless us if we are faithful in giving Him our 10 percent. It makes no sense but it is a truth. The tithe is an outward sign of our willingness to obey His Word and to live by faith alone.

    Thank you for this column. I pray many will read it and tithe if they have been deceived or discouraged by what they see in the “so-called Church” on TV. It saddens me to watch TBN and hear men manipulating God’s flock for their own material gain. I cannot watch those shows. They are as repulsive to me as an X rated movie.

    I tithe to my little Church because I know that it is the “storehouse” of God. In addition to supporting the expenses of the building and my pastor’s very meager salary, we have a food pantry and give out to the neighborhood as is needed.

    God is so good to give us the tithe. It is one of His greatest blessings. If we tithe, it then is His responsiblity to care for our needs. And He is faithful – all the time.

    I love you lots, dear sister of mine.

    Love and hugs,
    joanne

    Comment by Joanne | 23 September 2006 | Reply


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